Lakshmi
Mittal grew up in Western India in a home without electricity
or running water. But earlier this year in a 34 billion dollar deal,
his company Mittal steel merged with European steel company Arcelor
to create the world's largest steel company.
56 year old Mittal now has a personal fortune of 27 billion dollars,
making him the worlds 5th richest man.
You know you described the merger process with Arcelor, the
largest steel company in Europe, as a "boxing match". Why
did you describe it that way?
LM: It had several rounds, and this process required that we
win every round. And there were many rounds where it was kind of a draw
because no side was winning. There was a stalemate. There was a round
where we almost lost. And we were almost knocked out when Arcelor brought
in Severstal on the table.
This was the Russian company?
LM: That was the Russian company. And we felt that was a knockout.
And to recover from this knockout, and to start fighting again, is like
a boxing match. And finally we knocked them out and the merger has been
successful.
Were you scared of being knocked out, perhaps even quite early?
Because I remember when I last met you, you were so tense.
LM: I remember when I met you in February, I was really, really
stressed, because it was the beginning of this match. And I heard and
I listened to various emotional comments from different sites, politicians,
company, the management.
Of Arcelor?
LM: Of Arcelor. And that really was the beginning of
the discussions, the beginning of the match. We heard comments from
different governments which were not favored to us. And we saw the reaction.
So, all of this were the stressful moments in the beginning of this
fight.
Refresh our memory. What did these governments say and how
did you take it? Because again, to go back to February, even you were
a little emotional, were you not?
LM: I was emotional when I heard negative comments
from these governments. Some media call it racist comments. But personally
I did not experience it. But what I was reading at that time was not
pleasing and I was afraid that because of those comments we would not
succeed in this merger attempt. Fortunately as we moved forward in the
process, everyone realized that those comments were not warranted, and
those comments were not helpful for the governments and also for the
management of Arcelor.
What was it that these governments said that really rankled
you? That made you angry, even as emotional as you were?
LM: I read in the media that they started talking about Indian
company, companies from East coming to the West, some kind of funny
money, or monkey money. These kinds of comments were not justified.
We are an open company based in, listed in the New York Stock Exchange,
a global international steel company. We are not an unknown company
in the steel industry. We were the largest steel company in the world,
and we wanted to merge with the second largest company, and that was
the merger between the two open companies. So I, we, felt that this
was the best merger opportunity for the steel industry.
Why did you feel that way?
LM: The steel industry has always been fragmented and I've
been saying since 97, 98 that the steel industry needs to be consolidated,
and the process began but did not take momentum. Then came 2000, when
the industry suffered very badly. At that period, everyone realized
that the steel industry should be consolidated.
While you were talking to Arcelor, the CEO of Arcelor said
: "Hey listen! We are a European company and we actually manufacture
perfume. You Mittal Steel manufacture sub-standard products. You are
the manufacturers of Eau de cologne", these were his exact words.
You are smiling now, but you weren't then...
LM:They are very emotional comments. They are not rational
comments.
But they angered you.
LM: Fine. That's part of the fight. But now the history
is behind us. And the integration between the two companies have begun
very well, we have an excellent team in place. I would say that we have
the best management team in the steel industry in the world and we have
been able to put top class team. They have started integration since
six weeks, and I have been seeing the progress. I am really pleased
with the progress, what we have made with the company.
Now when you look back at this deal, Lakshmi, this is about
a person who was born in India, based in London, taking over a French
company, based in Luxemburg. Is this a sign of the new global times
that we live in?
LM: Yes this is the real global company, and is a sign of globalization.
Even in the top 24 senior management, I have eight nationalities. We
have people from all the major worlds and if you look at our top 400
people we would be having at least 35 nationalities in the group. So,
I can clearly see that how a global company should function and why
such diversity at the top management is very important and is key to
success.
Earlier, just before the merger, you made one promise and you
repeated that several times. You said 3 words: "No job cuts".
Will you live up to that?
LM: Yes. We have always
In good times and bad?
LM: We have always lived up to our commitments in the past.
And that is a very successful record we have. I have said that they
will not be any job cuts arising out of this merger. Both the companies
have their own commitments of investments, growth, and employment. And
we are committed to that.
Coming back to the question about racism. You really haven't
answered that. Did feel that then, do you feel that now?
LM: Personally, I never experienced. I must tell you. I met
all the politicians, senior politicians in various countries, I met
media, I met shareholders, stake holders, employees. I never personally
experienced any kind of that feeling. On the contrary, I felt positive
reception and reaction with the masses.
So while you were in the ring, people were really rooting for
you?
LM: You see, in the ring you always have two kinds of crowds.
Otherwise the match is not interesting.
There were people trying to put you down and people trying
to support.
LM: Yeah. That is how the game is played. Always, if I have
only supporters there would be no fun and no challenge.
So are you willing to forget and forgive those people who were
booing you while you were in the ring?
LM: I don't even remember them! Life moves on. Life moved on.
We have a new team. A very exciting team and that is what matters.
How important is personal wealth for you? Is this important,
or is the concept of creating wealth for others more important?
LM: I think first of all I tell you I never calculate my wealth.
Why?
LM: It doesn't matter. When I earned my first million
dollars it mattered. After this, the wealth does not matter. What matters
is what you do in the life. Are you happy? Are you satisfied? Are you
successful? And this has been my target, this has been my vision: create
something unique and different in the business in which you are in.
That's how I moved in the steel industry. When I left India, I started
in Indonesia. I learned my business for more then 12, 13 years in Indonesia,
and I felt confident, I felt satisfied. So, I looked for more opportunities.
But why is it, you say, that this wealth is not important to
you? Because, I mean, face it Lakshmi, you live in perhaps the most
expensive home in Britain. And when your daughter was getting married
you put out a lavish wedding, some say 60 million dollars you spent
on the wedding alone. So how do you reconcile that with what you just
said?
LM: I never said this that I spent so much in my daughters
wedding. It is all media speculation. And I live in a home in London,
but I like the house. The whole family loved the house, so we bought
it. And that's all about it. It has nothing to do with, because we have
so much money we like to spend it. I think we like to live happily.
After all, I'm a family person. I have two children, I love my children.
So, we wanted to do a good wedding for them, and we did.
From a steel maker, Lakshmi, you have become a superstar.
Now your father warned you, and correct me if I am wrong, he said to
you: "Lakshmi if you become high profile, that is the day you are
in trouble". Do you remember those words?
LM: I'm not a high profile person.
You have the world's media chasing you all the time.
LM: Yeah, that is because of this event which cause so much
media frenzy, but normally I'm a really low profile person, I continue
to focus on my work, spending time with my family and friends. I never
wanted it but this particular event caused so much of excitement among
the media. Now I think everyone will get back to their work and we also
will be normal.
You describe yourself as a family person, your children you
said mean a lot to you. And they also play a big role in your business.
Your son is the CFO of Arcelor-Mittal Steel, your daughter Vanisha,
too plays a role. Why is it they are so involved in the business? Didn't
they want to do something themselves? Or?
LM: You see we are a small family. My wife was also involved
in my business until 95, 96. And since my children were small, every
day in the evening on the dining room table they would hear about the
business talking about the steel industry, they would come with me to
the steel plant in the night, when I would go for a round or a visit.
So they have felt themselves more comfortable with the industry. And
when they grew up, when they were in college they would visit me to
the various facilities. So therefore I think they feel very confidant
in what they are doing and my son has been very successful as a president
and CFO of Mittal Steel.
He was the person who actually advised you first that you should
try to take over Arcelor.
LM: Yeah, yes. He has been involved in my business for 10 years.
He led the first IPO of Ispat International.
That was one of your steel companies, Ispat international?
LM: Yes. And he also learned all of the mergers and acquisitions
of the group. And all the time we have been discussing the strategy.
And he talked to me last year that we should look at Arcelor.
How did you get from India to becoming this steel baron? What
have been you management mantras Lakshmi?
LM: I think when I left India, in 76, I had no choice but to
succeed.
Why? You were scared of failure?
LM: I landed up in a country in Indonesia, where the Japanese
were dominating the whole steel industry. A person coming in from India
who had no background of running such a large company, and competing
against the Japanese was a big challenge. I was the first foreign company,
non- Japanese company, in the steel industry. So that taught me a lot
of lessons that we have to work very hard. We must have a lot of commitment
and dedication to the business. We have to deliver a better product
then our competition. We have to have better productivity then our competition.
You grew up in a very simple home in Western India, in the
desert, but then perhaps one of your family members had a sense about
your future, because you were named Lakshmi. Explain to everyone what
your name means.
LM: Lakshmi stands, in India, for Goddess of wealth.
So they had a sense that, perhaps, you would grow up to be
rich?
LM: Perhaps they wanted this way.
Do you think about your name sometimes? And has that been any
motivation at all?
LM: No, no, it never occurred to me. I grew up in a place where
there was no electricity, no running water, but I think that's good
in a way. It makes you more strong. If you start your childhood, with
difficult times, difficult period, and in a challenging environment
you become more stronger in your life. I had a very modest childhood,
nothing fancy.
Describe that. Describe your household. Describe where you
lived.
LM: I was one of the young boys among so many children in the
house. My father used to be very busy in his own business. My mother
would take care of me. I remember when I got my results for the University,
my father was even not even aware that I stood top in the University.
I sent him a telegram because I couldn't afford to call him. So we come
from very modest family, working hard in the studies, going by buses
or walking to the schools and universities, these things I can never
forget.
Your father was in the steel business himself.
LM: Yes.
He then sent you to Indonesia, he packed you off as a 25 year
old, how scared were you? He said: "go run the mill".
LM: No, in fact I went on a holiday to South East Asia with
my friend and my father wanted me to sell a plot of land, which he had
bought as he felt that it would not be possible to do something with
the plot. When I arrived there, I changed his mind. I said: "I
would like to build a steel company in Indonesia". And that's the
beginning of life.
After that you went on a world-wind spree. You started buying
companies everywhere you started buying companies from Trinidad and
Tobago to South Africa. How difficult was that? Because here you were
somebody from India, with no international exposure. And then, just
doing these huge global deals?
LM: It looks so big now, with everything step by step. After
14 years I ventured into the second company which was in Trinidad, which
was I think the first important milestone in my career. I didn't have
money, so I took this company on a lease basis, with option to buy after
5 years. So there was a challenge and there was urge to earn money to
buy. Because for 5 years if you don't earn enough, you could not have
bought it. So that drove me to continue to work hard and turn that company
around. And then the next year it was Mexico, we also succeeded there.
We also didn't have enough money to buy, so we borrowed from the bank
and from the investors and that company turned around with a good team.
And if you have one or two successes, you can take bigger challenges
in your hand.
One of the criticisms that have been leveled against you, Lakshmi,
is that unlike Bill Gates and perhaps Warren Buffet, you haven not really
done much for charity. Or your charitable acts, as some put it, haven't
been highlighted. What would you like to say to those words?
LM: First of all I'm still young. I'm not like Warren Buffet,
so I have still work. It is not true that we aren't doing enough for
charities we have got a lot of initiatives in different countries where
we have business. And all these companies are doing charitable work,
are helping society and community. Now, recently we are going to form
Arcelor-Mittal foundation so we are going to form all of our charity
under this foundation and we will continue to work for society and community
on a global basis.
What one issue would you like to tackle in the world through
this Arcelor-Mittal charity?
LM: I think we continue to focus on education and health. Because
we have business in 27 countries and, if you look at our business, first
we like to help those countries where we have business. Education is
priority and in some countries health is priority, so we will divide
our focus between health and education.
What's your dream Lakshmi? 56 years old, what do you dream
of? Whats next?
LM: Keep on working. Keep on working there is still a lot to
do!
Source:A famous international Business Weekly.